20 March 2015

As a Muslim woman, I see the veil as a rejection of progressive values

It could be a millenarian crisis or a delayed reaction to decades of bad history, but millions of Muslims seem to have turned inwards, hankering for an imagined golden age. They are contemptuous of modernity’s bendable, ductile values. Some are drawn to reactionary dogma, and preachers while a good number have thrown themselves into political Islam to resist and combat western hegemonies – or so the story goes.

As a practising (though flawed) Shia Muslim, I watch the new puritans with apprehension. So too other Muslims worldwide, the silent many, watch and tremble.

From the eighth to the early 20th century, Muslims strove for a broad education (as commanded in the Qur’an), questioned doctrines, and were passionate about scientific advancements, political and social ideals and art. Not even humiliating colonial rule deterred them from the march forward. Now the marchers are walking backwards. The hijab, jilbab, burqa and niqab are visible signs of this retreat from progressive values.

[TOP RATED COMMENT 257 votes] "Liberalism is being tested by the new Islamic ardency. A French-style ban would be unwise and unjust. But institutions can apply dress codes. A bank worker cannot dress like a stripper; a child cannot wear a boob tube to school."

Couldn't agree more. I dislike 'covering up' because I live in a world where the face is a vital part of interaction. that parents could deny their daughters a vast array of careers in this country by virtue of some imposed dogma seems to me idiotic & illiberal

As a british taxpayer I am thrilled to contribute to the education of girls, I am less thrilled to see that education wasted because of their parents.

[2ND 180] It is sad that something so obvious needs to be stated. But thanks to decades of simpering cultural relatism by confused progressives, the misogyny inherent in forcing women and girls to cover up needs to be confronted and openly criticised.

[3RD 131] She gets a lot of grief from both "sides" but I've always quietly admired Yasmin and her courageous, candid writing. This is no exception.

[4TH 108] "From the eighth to the early 20th century, Muslims strove for a broad education (as commanded in the Qur’an), questioned doctrines, and were passionate about scientific advancements, political and social ideals and art."

Well thats just wishful thinking. The truth is simple; religious domination holds back any society, and Islam is the most effective religion at doing so. If you want progress in Muslim countries, it requires the populace to reject religion and its bullshit mumbo-jumbo, as the rest of us have done.

[ANOTHER] "A French-style ban would be unwise and unjust"

Why ? I lived in France during the time the ban was brought in. There was more protest in the U.K. than in France, where there is the idea that 'this is France, if you want to live here, these are the basic rules'.

They don't believe in multiculturalism. Full Stop.

I find the large number of (youngish) women who walk around my local Cardiff Asda supermarket in full black burkha , with little or no English spoken , somewhat depressing. [Guardian Cif] Read more

Afghan cleric and others defend lynching of woman in Kabul

An Afghan cleric and a police official on Friday defended the lynching of a woman in central Kabul after a mob was filmed stamping on the woman and smashing a brick on her head after she was accused of burning a Koran, Islam's holy book.

The woman's body was set on fire and thrown onto the banks of Kabul's main river on Thursday.

It was unclear whether she had actually burned a Koran, but during Friday prayers at a mosque in a smart area of Kabul, a cleric's sermon broadcast by loudspeaker told devotees that the crowd had a right to defend their Muslim beliefs at all costs. [Reuters] Read more

Why Islam Needs a Reformation

“Islam’s borders are bloody,” wrote the late political scientist Samuel Huntington in 1996, “and so are its innards.” Nearly 20 years later, Huntington looks more right than ever before. According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies, at least 70% of all the fatalities in armed conflicts around the world last year were in wars involving Muslims.

In 2013, there were nearly 12,000 terrorist attacks world-wide. The lion’s share were in Muslim-majority countries, and many of the others were carried out by Muslims. By far the most numerous victims of Muslim violence—including executions and lynchings not captured in these statistics—are Muslims themselves.

Not all of this violence is explicitly motivated by religion, but a great deal of it is. I believe that it is foolish to insist, as Western leaders habitually do, that the violent acts committed in the name of Islam can somehow be divorced from the religion itself. For more than a decade, my message has been simple: Islam is not a religion of peace. [The Wall Street Journal] Read more

‘Sorry, I don’t talk to women’

I added the word “sorry” to the title of this article even though government officials do not normally bother to use this word. I have previously written regarding how women are not allowed to enter government buildings and are forced to stand outside on the street. I now intend to discuss how government officials treat women once they manage to enter government offices.

I know of a woman who went to a hospital with her husband. The hospital’s management subsequently asked her to leave because women are not allowed to stay the night with their husbands. Only male family members can do so.

This woman asked the consultant to keep her posted on her husband’s health. He, however, refused to speak to her in person or over the phone, and said he would only talk with male family members. He insisted on dealing with her like this even though what he was doing was against the rights of patients.

Another example is that of a mother who called her son’s school to ask how well he was doing. The teacher refused to talk to her and said he would only to talk to the child’s father. What if this woman were widowed or divorced? [Saudi Gazette] Read more

Most Canadians say faces shouldn’t be covered at citizenship ceremonies: poll

A new Global News/Ipsos Reid poll indicates most Canadians agree with the prime minister when it comes to face coverings while taking their oath at citizenship ceremonies.

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper recently said that wearing the niqab is “rooted in a culture that is anti-women” and that it is “offensive” for someone to keep their face shrouded during the citizenship ceremony.

The poll indicated that 88 per cent of Canadians strongly or somewhat support the “requirement that people show their faces during Canadian citizenship ceremonies.” [Globalnews.ca] Read more

Malaysian move toward stricter Islamic law divides opposition party

Calls by Malaysia’s Islamist opposition party for strict Islamic law that includes amputations and stonings is symptomatic of a drift to more conservative Islam in politics and could further strain relations in the multi-ethnic country.

The push by the Islamist Parti Islam se-Malaysia (PAS) for the laws, known as hudud, also threatens to split a fragile opposition coalition that has been challenging the long-ruling Muslim party and its allies.

The disparate three-party opposition alliance that includes PAS won the popular vote for the first time in Malaysia’s history in a 2013 election.

While the ruling United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) and its partners still won the most seats, they are more determined than ever to hold on to power which they have enjoyed since independence in 1957. [Reuters] Read more

19 March 2015

UK: Some Faiths are More Equal than Others

.... Then, in 2014, the Home Secretary Theresa May reiterated that the government would not fund or collaborate with extremist groups:

"We have made important changes to the 'Prevent' programme we inherited from the last government. ... There are now strict rules and checks to make sure we do not fund and do not work with people and organisations that do not share British values. And our policy doesn't just focus on violent extremism, it deals with non-violent extremism too."

The activities and partners of the Department for Communities and Local Government openly contradict ministers' claims that the government does not work with extremist groups. British media, politicians, think-tanks and community groups spend inordinate amounts of time discussing the problem of radicalization.

Few tangible solutions have been thought up. Instead of threatening interfaith groups about errant rabbis, one easy step, as has been pointed out many times before, would be to stop funding groups that represent the very extremists the British government claims to oppose. [Gatestone Institute] Read more

18 March 2015

Quest for "French Islam" goes to the classroom

.... A French focus is key, given that only 25-30 percent of practicing imams in France are French nationals, with hundreds of others dispatched on assignments by Turkey, Algeria and Morocco, according to a government study published in July.

Many do not speak French and have no knowledge of French law or customs, obstacles that the training is geared to address.

About 200 people from all faiths, not just Muslims, have already participated in the government-sponsored programme that dates from 2008. Some 1,800 imams are practising in France in the approximately 2,500 mosques or prayer rooms.

.... Previous attempts to encourage a moderate Islam in France have been unsuccessful. In 2003, ex-president Nicolas Sarkozy, then interior minister, created the French Muslim Council to help address issues such as imam training, mosque building and regulating halal slaughter. But the council has proved ineffective due to divisions between rival mosque networks. [Reuters] Read more

Video: UK Muslim spokesmen explain Islam’s death penalty for apostasy, hilarity ensues

This BBC program features ex-Muslim Amal Farah of the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain (CEMB) and several Muslim spokesmen discussing Islamic law’s death penalty for apostasy. Farah, despite her affiliation with CEMB, which is often more concerned with smearing and demonizing genuine critics of jihad terror and Islamic supremacism than with actually defending apostates from Islam, the one sane and rational voice in the discussion.

The Muslim spokesmen, by contrast, practice various forms of evasion and deflection, claiming victim status repeatedly. Abdullah al-Andalusi of the ironically named Muslim Debate Initiative is the worst, ascribing Islam’s death penalty for apostasy to “Victorian translations” and claiming that it is only a law in “post-colonial secular states,” and pouting that the BBC is conducting an “Inquisition court.”

Note also how he dodges the question of whether or not he condemns the words of UK imam Haitham al-Haddad, who has defended the death penalty for apostasy. [Jihad Watch] Read more

17 March 2015

This Is What Going to School with Jihadi John Taught Me About Radicalisation

.... Before "Jihadi John" was revealed as Emwazi, an alumni of the school, I'd jokingly said to a friend, "I bet he went to QK". If any school could produce a "Jihadi John", it'd be ours, and we all knew it. My reaction to reading Emwazi had indeed gone to Quintin Kynaston was a specific type of shock – not of disbelief, but that an intuition had been right.

.... I remember student calling a teacher a "Jew", and the teacher replying that it was the student who was the "Jew".

Staff often found themselves with students they had zero authority over. I've read articles where it is "revealed" that Emwazi used "Jew" as a slur and went on anti-Semitic rants. This would be no revelation to anyone who went to the school. "Jew" was a standard cuss. There was normally no conviction to this – it was teenage rebellion no different really to the "edgy" comments made in any other school. At Quintin Kynaston, however, these comments often went unchecked. [VICE] Read more

Danish People's Party: Help Muslims leave Islam

Danish People's Party (DF) spokesman Martin Henriksen wants to see the Danish state step in and offer help to Muslims who want to leave the religion but feel bullied into staying.

“We unfortunately have seen many examples of someone wanting to leave Islam but having a hard time doing it or not daring to do it because they fear reprisals from certain groups within the Muslim communities of Denmark. This is a way in which we can begin doing something about it,” Henriksen told Politiken.

Henriksen stressed that the programme would not be proactive but would rather only help those who reached out for assistance. [The Local] Read more

Canadians oppose niqab during citizenship ceremony, poll suggests

Two-thirds of Canadians oppose allowing women to wear the face-covering niqab during citizenship ceremonies, a new poll by Forum Research suggests.

The public opinion survey, conducted Friday and Saturday, found that 67 per cent of respondents oppose the idea, while fewer than a quarter (22 per cent) are in support. Ten per cent are undecided.

A total of 1,370 Canadian adults took part in the survey.

Regionally, opposition was highest in Quebec, where 87 per cent of respondents oppose the niqab during citizenship ceremonies, and lowest in the Atlantic provinces, where 54 per cent of respondents oppose the idea.

Sixty-three per cent oppose it in Ontario.

The issue has come to public prominence after Zunera Ishaq refused to take off her niqab during the oath swearing portion of her citizenship ceremony. [Toronto Star] Read more

Tom Holland: We must not deny the religious roots of Islamic State

.... The truth is that in Islam today, as in Christianity during the Reformation, the spectrum of those who practise the faith is widening to convulsive effect. Hasan’s dismissal of two Isis recruits from Birmingham as “religious novices” echoes the horror of Catholic scholars such as Thomas More at the pretensions of Protestant tailors and tinkers.

Just as in the early 16th century the printing press and the efforts of translators such as Luther and Tyndale served to democratise knowledge of the Bible, so in the 21st century has the ready availability on the internet of the Quran and the hadiths in the vernacular enabled rappers, security guards and schoolgirls all to bandy scripture.

To complain that quranic verses which mandate crucifixion or beheading are being cited without reference to the traditions of Islamic jurisprudence is to miss the point. It is precisely because Isis militants imagine themselves the equivalent of Muhammad’s companions, blessed with an unadorned understanding of God’s commands, that they feel qualified to establish a caliphate. [New Statesman] Read more

16 March 2015

Three-quarters of Muslim Australians feel they are unfairly targeted by terror laws, study reveals

Muslim Australians believe overwhelmingly that they are unfairly targeted by counter-terrorism laws but say terrorist groups distort the true meaning of Islam, a survey of community attitudes has revealed.

Around one in five of the 800 Muslims polled believed that terrorist groups sometimes have legitimate grievances, the survey found, hinting at the delicate task Australian community leaders face in countering the propaganda war waged by groups such as Islamic State.

The researchers, including University of Queensland criminologist Adrian Cherney, said the findings showed that police, especially those in Sydney, needed to do more to build trust and a willingness to cooperate among Muslim communities. [421 comments]

[TOP RATED COMMENT] .... WELL, of all the immigrants in Australia, it isn't maoris, Tongans, Chinese, Japanese, Italians, Dutch, Swedes, French, Germans, Jews, English, Americans Spanish, Irish etc etc etc who are behind the terrorist acts that have brought about the changes to our laws.

To deny there is a link between terrorism in and against the West and muslims beggars belief. Who would think that the terrorist laws drawn up in almost every Western country are not reasonably targeted at muslims? Nobody else did the 9/11 Twin Towers...nobody else did the Paris shootings and nobody else did the Lindt Cafe killings......and most importantly, only muslims to any degree express sympathy for the perpetrators.

Are muslims completely stupid to the extent that they can't work out why they're the target of anti terrorism laws? I know they're reputed to have lower than average IQs but this is ridiculous.

I think muslims don't like infidels because we're not religious enough, yet, they choose to live amongst us infidels, and then complain about us carrying on our lives in the way that we always have.

[ANOTHER] "One of the most damaging and enduringly damaging things this regime has done is to continually highlight and isolate Australian Muslims through its actions and words and the use of conflict as a tactic when its poll rating flag."

Wrong - Muslims have isolated themselves.

[ANOTHER] It is such a difficult situation. I know a number of Muslims personally and also professionally. There is not one unpleasant statement I can make about any of them. they are all polite, intelligent, hard working and caring, yet at the same time I cannot dispute the fact that more than 90% of terrorist acts that I read about are undertaken by muslims, on behalf of muslim organisations, in the name of Allah and are simply barbaric

wiser minds than mine need to work out a way to maintain the safety of the public and not offend what are no doubt the majority of peace loving muslims

[ANOTHER] Holding rallies calling for the deaths of those who insult the prophet might have something to do with it.

Ceasing the anti-Israel rhetoric might also help.

Clamping down on the halal certification scam (named as such by muslims themselves) would be a good idea, too.

I'd start with attitudes like that.

[ANOTHER] one in five believe terrorist groups have legitimate grievences? seriously and this backwards culture wonders why it is targeted. 400 000 Muslims in Australia , statistically thats 80 000 muslims that admit to holding these views in this country.

[ANOTHER] A few years ago I worked in an M.P.s office for a while in Western Sydney and one day received a call from a journalist from a Muslim newspaper.

The caller complained that "the level of hostility is rising" and wanted his M.P. "to do something about".

I passed on the message but what I should have said to him was that if he wanted more acceptance then the best thing to do would be to denounce individuals like Taj El-Din Hilaly, the former Imam at Lakemba mosque who made statements comparing women to uncovered meat as a justification for rape.

Other Muslims that I have spoken to believe that the September 11 attacks and the Taj Mahal hotel attacks in Mumbai were the work of the CIA as a means to "discredit Muslims".

Until these sorts of ideas - which are evidently prevalent in the Muslim community - are themselves discredited, little progress will be made in improving the acceptance of Muslims in the wider population.

The Dutch politician Geert Wilders described the attitude of many Muslims as that of "settlers" in a new land that they intend to occupy and one that they will eventually dominate with the introduction of Sharia Law and Islamic culture.

No other group believes that they have the right to force their beliefs on to the rest of the population so why should the Muslim community be surprised if hostility and rejection are the consequence of that insistence?

[ANOTHER] Islam belongs in the dark ages from where it came, and that is why in EVERY western civilised country they find themselves at odds with the citizens they have begged to live with and aspire to be like....the thing is, you can't have the Western goodies without playing the Western game and behaving like you're living in Moses' time is not a great start...

[ANOTHER] Tough luck. Islamic extremism is pretty real and people are scared of it. The govt may be overplaying it for politics, but there is legitimate fear too.

I'm pretty well over muslims telling us that ISIS and those like them are not true muslims. I don't buy that.

.... The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.

[ANOTHER] Muslims are in a hard place, Australian Law contradicts Islamic Law and hence why they feel targeted

Death for being Raped, Apostasy, Homosexuality, the fact that women are equal, children are not allow to marry, polygamy etc contradicts Islamic Law and why they see Australian society as unfare. [The Guardian] Read more

Can we drop the term ‘moderate Muslim’? It’s meaningless

.... if by being moderate we mean believing in freedom of expression and an acceptance of equality in gender and sexuality, it is by no means certain that the majority of Muslims are moderate, as the word is commonly used. One young student in Leicester told me that unlike many of his fellow Muslims he would shake a woman’s hand. He still believed in gender segregation at public events but his stance on handshaking meant he defined himself as a moderate.

While everyone I talked to would begin by firmly stating how all Muslims they knew were tolerant and how Islam was about moderation, when I asked how others in their communities in Luton, Bradford and Leicester would react if a loved one told them, for example, that they were gay, or where they stood on the idea of free mixing between the sexes, it quickly became apparent that they held views that many would not consider moderate at all.

[TOP RATED COMMENT 244 votes] Jihadi John being a Muslim isn't just an inconvenient "label" which you can airily dismiss. He works for IS, FFS, in which the "I" stands for Islamic. How can you hope to understand what's going on in the world when you intentionally turn a blind eye to that?

[2ND 207] They believe themselves to be Muslims. Why don't you enter into a theological debate with them about how your interpretation of Islam is superior to theirs?

[3RD 186] "They disputed the suggestion that their Islam had anything in common with the ideology of the jihadis"

It is the same religion, interpreted differently. The claims that IS are not following the Islamic faith are ridiculous.

[4TH 155] They are fighting for - wait for it - an ISLAMIC CALIPHATE.

"There's nothing Islamic about them"

I'm surprised you can still type with your head buried so deep in the sand.

[5TH 147] The fact that they proclaim themselves to be Muslims is front and centre, and that's where it should remain.

Like it or not, these murderous craven cowards are killing and torturing in the name of your religion. [The Independent] Read more

University of Kent bans extremist Islamic preacher Haitham al-Haddad from giving talk on sharia law

An Islamic preacher accused of promoting homophobic and antisemitic views has been banned from speaking at the University of Kent.

Haitham al-Haddad, who presides over a sharia court, was invited to give a talk on sharia law by the university's Islamic Society as part of its “Discover Islam Week" until the university intervened.

In the past al-Haddad has claimed a man should not be questioned for hitting his wife, and has defended female genital mutilation. [KentOnline] Read more

Pakistan church bombing protests escalate, 10 more Christians killed

A further 10 Christians have been killed in protests against Sunday's attacks on two churches in Lahore, Christian Today has learned, bringing the total death toll across the two days to more than 25.

Shamim Masih, chief reporter for the British Pakistani Christian Association (BPCA), told Christian Today from Lahore that four Christians had been fatally shot by police and six more killed by Muslims who attacked those protesting in Yohanabad, south Lahore, today.

The Muslims were carrying sticks and beat the Christians with metal bars, he said. One woman also reportedly killed a man by running him over with her car, though it is not known whether the incident was deliberate. [Christian Today] Read more

15 March 2015

Baby-making machines

.... Iran has proposed a raft of draconian new laws that critics fear would force women to stay at home and turn them into “baby-making machines”.

The laws, part of a broader drive to curb women’s rights, would restrict birth control and access to jobs for those without children after a call by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, to boost the population from 77m to 150m within 50 years.

The measures would outlaw vasectomies and female sterilisation, ban the recruitment of single teachers and make it impossible for childless lawyers to practise family law. Employers would be required to give precedence to men and women with children.

Amnesty International has attacked the plans as an attempt to turn women into “baby-making machines”. [Mick Hartley] Read more

The war on the Christians of the Middle East

.... Those of us who have been sounding the alarm about the death of cosmopolitanism, pluralism, inclusiveness and the imperative of maintaining what is left of the once rich human mosaic that was at the heart of what made some of the great cities of the region beacons of culture, are stunned at the general silence, and yes the betrayal of Western societies - particularly the United States - of these communities....

The horrors of the sound and the fury of the war on the Christians of the Middle East have been fully documented and yet the reaction of western political classes, public opinions and even Christian churches has been mostly and scandalously muted. [Mick Hartley] Read more

Deadly blasts hit Pakistan churches in Lahore

Two bomb blasts have killed at least 14 people near two churches in a Christian neighbourhood of the Pakistani city of Lahore, local officials say.

More than 70 people were hurt in the explosions, which targeted worshippers attending Sunday mass at the churches in the Youhanabad area.

Violent protests erupted after the blasts, with a mob killing two men accused of involvement in the attacks.

Pakistan's Christian community has often been targeted by militants. [BBC] Read more

14 March 2015

German court rules teachers can wear headscarves

GERMANY’S highest court yesterday struck down a state law banning teachers from wearing headscarves as unconstitutional, saying it violates the right to religious freedom.

The Federal Constitutional Court’s ruling came in the case of two female Muslim teachers from the state of North Rhine-Westphalia, but will also apply to the several other German states that have headscarf bans.

It came after more than 12 years of legal battles, and the issue already made it to the high court in Karlsruhe in 2003, when judges ruled that headscarves were allowed unless banned by specific laws. [The Scotsman] Read more

13 March 2015

Raif Badawi flogging delayed for 9th week in a row

Raif Badawi, the Saudi blogger jailed for criticizing Islam, has had his weekly lashes delayed for a ninth consecutive week.

Human rights group Amnesty International confirmed the news on Twitter, saying the reasons were unclear for yet another postponement.

.... Haidar told CBC earlier this month she's heard from official sources in Saudia Arabia that her husband may face a new trial, this time for renouncing faith. The apostasy charge is punishable under Saudi law with the death penalty by beheading. [CBC News] Read more

Not in my Name: the ‘Joint UK Muslim Statement’ offers no progressive solutions

.... it is worth having a look at the particular views of some of the signatories, such as Abdurraheem Green’s anti-Semitism, Haitham Haddad’s support for female genital mutilation and suicide bombing in Israel or Iraq, or the views of Hizb ut-Tahrir, represented over 20 times in this 170-strong list, which include the stoning of adulteresses among the aims for their aspired-to caliphate.

I certainly don’t assume that everyone on the list shares those views, but I do question their judgement in aligning with such figures.

Here is the problem for the signatories – Quilliam has repeatedly insisted that the UK should not ban Islamist groups that stop short of committing, promoting, or preparing violent actions. Exposing and criticising bad ideas, logical fallacies, or an ideology that often creates an atmosphere conducive to terrorism, is a much better pursuit than legislating against them and does, in fact, uphold our ‘values and liberal freedoms’. [Left Foot Forward] Read more

12 March 2015

Islam 'invites people to violence' Queen's chaplain Reverend Gavin Ashenden claims

The Koran has “over 100 verses inviting people to violence” which Christianity “doesn’t have,” one of the Queen’s chaplains has claimed.

Reverend Canon Gavin Ashenden, one of the Queen’s 35 chaplains, made his comments on Iain Dale’s LBC radio show.

He claimed that the passages in the Koran “tell you to kill your enemies” and to “strike of the heads” of “those who disbelieve,” the Daily Mail reports.

Reverend Ashenden was speaking in response to the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby’s comments made on Wednesday concerning religious extremism.

The Archbishop claimed that young people are turning to Jihad because mainstream religions and the alternative to extremism is not “exciting” enough, and that religious communities must do more to provide “purpose” in life for them.

[TOP RATED COMMENT] The man is speaking the truth. That doesn't cut the mustard in the UK, but it is the truth. If everyone would dump the mask of PC idiocy and face it, the West might just get a reprieve from the destruction of its culture.

[ANOTHER] Thank you, Canon Ashenden.

Would it be too much to expect senior Muslim religious leaders to confirm or deny this?

[ANOTHER] At last, the truth is being aired.

[ANOTHER] I see he is one of those few people who has actually READ the Quran. Good man. [The Independent] Read more

Farage’s Muslim ‘fifth column’ remarks must not go unchallenged

.... While Farage’s comments on race are rightly being challenged by our political leaders, there seems to be less of an outcry over remarks that Muslims represent a “fifth column” in this country. He has said there is “an increasing level of concern because people do see a fifth column living within our country, who hate us and want to kill us”.

Yet most Muslims in this country are second and third generation, like me, and proudly identify themselves as British. Contrary to the Islamophobia picture painted by Ukip and its members, British Muslims have come out in droves condemning the violence misguidedly carried out in our name, and are working hard to build bridges with fellow Britons.

[TOP RATED COMMENT 245 votes] 27% of British Muslims sympathise with the motives of the Charlie Hebdo killers, and 40% of British Muslims support the barbaric and thoroughly inhumane Sharia law.

Nigel Farage is absolutely correct to call out a "fifth column" of people living within the UK who desire the destruction of democracy, the subjugation of infidels and the forceful imposition of Sharia law. This is only a statement of fact.

[2ND 186] "Ukip do not represent British values".

Neither does Islam - or any organised religion.

This is simply part of a wider push by self-interest groups (like the Muslim Council) to elevate a belief system - a set of ideas that you choose to follow - to the same level as race/gender/disability/sexuality - which are set.

Islam (or any other religion) as a political/social force has nothing to offer this country - religious people should be free to practice how/where they want in the private sphere - in the public sphere their bleating for special privileges should be ignored as any other.

And the Race and Religious Hatred Act should never have included religion - but messiah Blair and his cronies needed the bloc vote offered by the sheeple.

[3RD 164] Like him or not he has a point. As one of the other posters has mentioned there have been surveys of Muslims in this country and a sizeable percentage have espoused some form of support for the islamist nutters. It's this that should really be discussed and challenged.

[4TH 155] Sorry Guardian, but outside Guardian HQ, lots of people do see a 'fifth column' of a very small minority of muslims who do want to kill us.

Last year in Cardiff, I witnessed people openly waving the black and white IS flag, in full view of protestors (protesting about Palestine perfectly legitimately) and policemen.

It is a tiny minority, but it is an issue nonetheless, and the'liberal' (and I use the term loosely, as many are not liberal at all) wish to bury ones head in the sand isn't working. [Guardian Cif] Read more